Why don't DCs like scalpers and pips?

scalping and pipsing Market noise and quote flow

In the market, even in calm times, there is never a single price. Every second, bank dealers throw in their quotes from Reuters Dealing. Every second, for the same instrument, there are dozens of quotes with a difference of 2-3 or more points. Sometimes, depending on the volatility of the market or the instrument itself, this difference can reach tens of points.

All of these quotes are rebroadcast in dealing systems DC and in trading terminals clients of DCs. Some brokers set up filters and cut unnecessary quotes, averaging and smoothing the flow. This eliminates market noiseBut in the case of strong directional moves there are delays. Other brokerage companies broadcast quotes as they are, cutting off only apparent spikes. As a result, we often see the following picture, especially on a sideways trend: one or two quotes up, two or three quotes down, two or three quotes up, one or two quotes down. It seems to be a movement, but in fact, the market is standing still. This is called market noise.

What do pips and scalpers do?

Pips and scalpers are focused exclusively on the game in a narrow range of market noise in order to take out 1-2 pips at the top, opening to buy, and 1-2 pips at the bottom, opening to sell. Trades open and close within seconds and rarely last more than one minute. In the MetaTrader4 terminal, where automatic trading is allowed, this is done by specially trained scripts-advisors.

Of course, if the range of market noise is wider than the value of the spread quoted by the dealer, scalping tactics becomes super profitable.

Демпинговый спред – ошибка дилинговых центров

Since the beginning of mass sales MetaTrader 4 trading platform and related to this rapid development of the dealing services industry, the last five years, many dealing centers in pursuit of the client began to narrow the spread down to zero, which in turn gave rise to a huge army of scalpers. These are not investors, these are not traders, these are gamers for whom Forex представляется ни чем иным как разновидностью “Тетриса”. И они наивно недоумевают, почему дилеры их так не любят?

So why don't dealers like pips and scalpers?

The dealer's task is to ensure that the risks on the total aggregate position of all his clients (investors-traders) opened with him do not exceed the risks on his similar position opened with the counterparty - another dealer.

Depending on the party and the total volume of the client position, he periodically increases or decreases the volume of his position with the counterparty, which should always be more profitable for the dealer. This is what his job is all about.

Task the pipsqueak gamer успевать ловить свои пипсы в крайних точках рыночного шума. И так как, такие сделки имеют фантомный характер, разумеется дилер не может принимать их во внимание при ведении своей позиции у контрагента. Единственным и наиболее эффективным средством от “грызунов” является расширение им spread and delays in quoting. Otherwise, all the honestly earned dealer profit will be eaten by the pipers.

Комментарии ( 4 )

  1. “Честно заработанная прибыль дилера” – даже звучит смешно. Если бы она была “честно заработанной”, то это был бы уже не дилер, а брокер (для которого пипсовщик самый лучший клиент).

  2. And I see it differently. The brokerage companies teach us to trade (correctly), putting stop losses and take profits, not because all this information is visible on the server so the price can collect as many stop losses as possible and rob the naive. And scalpers bypass this scam...

  3. Полностью поддерживаю людей. Почему нас не любят? Да может потому, что мы хотим честной торговли? Если любой брокер, Альпари, Форекс клуб, кто там еще есть, заявляет, что “Честно” зарабатывает только на спреде, то какая ему нафиг разница пипсую я или стою в долгую. Он должен быть рад, что я открываю по пятьдесят позиций за день, это же и есть ИХ хлеб.
    So why not love us?
    А может за то, что по большей части любой ДЦ – это обычное МММ? =)) Но теперь мы “сами проигрываем” свои денежки! =)) Это просто Эльдорадо какое-то для мошенников! =)
    So there's really nothing to love about us if you're a crook. And if you're an honest broker, we're your best friends!
    Can you guys tell me where to find an honest broker? I see that the price is smoothed by everyone in runet.

    1. You are absolutely right!
      They would be happy with so many spreads!!!!
      Having tried more than one system, I now also want to learn how to pips.
      If it's no secret, tell me what helped you learn. PLZ
      How can I contact you?

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